Saturday , 13 July 2024

Don’t Get Greedy! The Greedometer Gauge Has a 100% Track Record – Here’s Its Most Recent S&P 500 Forecast (+3K Views)

In the 7 years that the Greedometer has been used there have been zero missed calls,house-of-cards and zero false alarms.  The 7th warning began in January and in late February,the Greedometer gauge reached an epic 7900rpm which is marginally higher than the 7700rpm maximum reading seen 3 months prior to the S&P500 peak in October 2007. [This article outlines the development and successes of the Greedometer and the new Mini Greedometer and what they are predicting for the stock market in 2013.] Words: 1420

So says Jeff Seymour ( in edited excerpts from an article* he has written entitled A history of the development and real-world application of the Greedometer.

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Seymour goes on to say in further edited excerpts:

A number of people have asked whether the Greedometer gauge is merely an indicator generated from back testing. Good question!  I’m happy to write the answer is no.

It is one thing to create a stock market warning device that works with historical data but it is entirely another to create a device that works in the real world. Let me provide this short history of the development and real-world application (in my advisory practice) of the Greedometer.

The Development of the Greedometer

2006: The Beginning

I began working on the gauge in early 2006, and had an early version working – and deployed in my practice – towards the end of that year. The early version was based on a combination of the S&P500 Profit Margin, S&P500 adjusted P/E, VIX, and ECRI’s WLI which are the 4 adjustable input parameters on the interactive Greedometer gauge tool.

2007 – 2010: Some refinements

More inputs were added over the course of 2007 through its completion in April 2011. I’m not sure completion is the correct term because the gauge has been tweaked and had another input added since then.  I suspect I’ll keep searching for more parameters, and continue using new data as a feedback loop to refine the algorithm. This may upset the purists out there and risk labeling the algorithm as back-tested. To this I say: that’s stupid.  I’m an applied scientist, not a pure scientist. I’m going to continue to try to find ways to improve the Greedometer algorithm –both algorithms. Why not?

Be that as it may, the early version of the algorithm provided enough insight to assist me in limiting client losses during the 57% S&P 500 collapse (October 2007 to March 2009) — to around 6.5%.

I had sufficient confidence in the early version of the gauge that I ran TV advertisements in January 2009 indicating the Dow would drop to the 6000s that year. As we now know, it did. (Those were 60 second ads that ran on the 6pm news at the local TV station with the largest market share – expensive.)

What came next was the massive QE1 rally from the March 2009 trough to the April 2010 peak. It ran me over (I lost 3%) because the gauge was – and remains – a very slow moving gauge. I was anticipating another drop in mid 2009  that never materialized. It’s too bad I was not further along in development of the Greedometer gauge at the time.

2010: More Parameters Added

More input parameters were added. The early 2010 version of the algorithm provided a warning shortly before and during the S&P500 peak in late April 2010. You may recall 2010. The S&P500 dropped nearly 20% from late April to early July. The collapse was halted by QE2‘s announcement in August. Another bear market rally ensued.

2011: “Final” Product & a Book

In early 2011 there were 8 inputs to the Greedometer gauge, and development was largely done.  At the time, the gauge was warning of another collapse (8000rpm- the highest reading ever registered, and as high as the gauge goes). What transpired was another nearly 20% drop in the S&P500 from late April to early October (a far faster drop than the opening salvo of the 2007-09 collapse). That 6 month period was probably my best 6-month period from the point of view of beating the market (relative basis), and  on an absolute return basis.

Anticipating an interim rally in July to roughly the same stock market peak as was seen in April, with a crash to follow,…[I sent] dozens of emails to financial news writers in June and July. No one would touch the story. The combination of my being an unknown and the extent of the dire forecast made for a tall obstacle to overcome. It proved insurmountable….[so] I ran an ad in the Wall St Journal. (I don’t mind telling you that ad was pricey!) Here it is.

fig 20.3 WSJ Dow 5000 ad

In the interest of full disclosure, once the Fed’s Operation Twist and the ECB’s LTRO were announced, I got kicked in the shins again and gave up a chunk of the previous period’s gain so be warned: anyone that is attempting to do any short term trading based solely on the Greedometer — don’t do it!   The gauge is too slow. The mini Greedometer was designed to help overcome this problem (and even it can only “see” to about 2-3 weeks — a lot can happen in 2-3 weeks).

In autumn 2011 I began researching and writing my first book (Greedometer: Dow 5000 – Why nobody sees it coming) It was self-published in early July 2012.  The objective was to provide a thorough explanation for previous recent stock market collapses, to connect them, and to warn of another imminent crash. Sadly – for my book sales – a few weeks after the book was published Dr Mario Draghi (ECB President) pounded the table and threatened “to do whatever it takes” to defend the euro currency experiment.  This stopped another stock market collapse in its tracks (that was again warned in advance by the Greedometer a few months earlier).  I didn’t see the point in leaving a book for sale that forecast a stock market collapse that would not begin to happen for another 6 months or more. So I took the book off the market.

2012: Introduction of the Mini Greedometer

Tired of not being able to get out of the way of these repeated monetary policy driven bear market rallies, in late 2011 – early 2012 I created a second algorithm – the mini Greedometer – that would output to a faster moving (tactical or semi-tactical) gauge. It was deployed in April 2012. The gauges together warned prior to two collapses that initiated and were stopped by more monetary policy intrusions in 2012.

2012: Another Addition to the Greedometer

There were further minor refinements to the algorithms. A 9th input was added to the Greedometer in late 2012 (and was also the 4th input parameter to the mini Greedometer): the ratio of insider shares sold / bought. I call this the rats jumping ship parameter because a few months prior to previous collapses, I observed extraordinarily high ratios of insiders dumping their shares across the realm of publicly traded companies. In other words an endemic phenomenon — not just a few CEOs selling shares to buy a third home.

2013: A New Book

The rats jumping ship parameter was also the inspiration for [the] name of my second book (Greedometer 2.0. The rats are jumping ship) which comes out in April 2013. Note: I plan on giving away as many copies of the e-book as possible in 1 day. This will be announced in the free section of the Greedometer Newsletter.

In January 2013, the Greedometer rose through 7000rpm. The countdown to initiation of another stock market crash had begun. In late February, the Greedometer gauge reached an epic 7900rpm — marginally higher than the 7700rpm maximum reading seen 3 months prior to the S&P500 peak in October 2007.

(This leaves the 2000-2003 crash.  While I have data for most of the 9 inputs on the Greedometer reaching back to January 1999, I was not in the investment business back then. (I had a great career as an engineer in the hi-tech telecoms bubble. Those were the days.)  So, yes, the Greedometer sequence for the 2000-2003 crash is entirely based on back-tested data, and not real world experience.)


Let’s take stock. There have been 6 previous Greedometer warnings –5 of them real world, 1 from back testing alone.  In the 7 years that the Greedometer – or parts that formed its predecessor – have been used in the real world, there have been zero missed calls, and zero false alarms.  The 7th warning began in January.  Will this collapse be stopped by more monetary intrusions?  Could be.  Will they be large enough?  Who knows?  Those questions are not knowable….yet the risk measures that feed the Greedometer are not relaxing because the Fed’s QE3 & QE4 are in place. Instead they’re showing extreme risk.

There you have it. A history of the development and real-world (not just back tested) application of the Greedometers.  It may not look like it, but I just glossed over several thousand hours of my time developing the Greedometers over the past seven years.

Editor’s Note: The author’s views and conclusions are unaltered and no personal comments have been included to maintain the integrity of the original article. Furthermore, the views, conclusions and any recommendations offered in this article are not to be construed as an endorsement of such by the editor.


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